We got +30 deg +38kts wind and lots of sand and water.
(Pacer 376 doing 17 kts this last Sunday in 30 kts of wind.)
Enjoy the Festive Season.
Kind Regards
Alex Simonis.
Visar inlägg med etikett Marten Voogd. Visa alla inlägg
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tisdag 21 december 2010
Alex Simonis önskar God Jul med bild på Pacer 376 när de gör 17 knop
We got +30 deg +38kts wind and lots of sand and water.
(Pacer 376 doing 17 kts this last Sunday in 30 kts of wind.)
Enjoy the Festive Season.
Kind Regards
Alex Simonis.
måndag 20 december 2010
Pacer Yachts lanserar ny SimonisVoogd designad 40-fotare
Nya Pacer 400 sjösattes utanför Royal Cape Yacht Club i Cape Town Sydafrika. Alexander Simonis och Marten Voogd design. Hon levereras i tre varianter med cruising varianten byggd i vinylester och en racingvarianten i epoxi. Klart är att det är performance som gäller.
Man har anammat Dehlers teknik att laminera ihop däck och skrov.
Man har anammat Dehlers teknik att laminera ihop däck och skrov.
Test turen gick utanför Sydafrikas kust i +15m/s vilket inte är ovanligt i SydAfrika. Kanske dags för ett 40-fots projekt?
Kort peke för code segel. Ser läcker ut med snygga proportioner. Eller hur?
Experimenten med slagen på Pacer 375 är borta på nya Pacer 400. Kostar för mycket i IRC och ORCi enligt varvet.
Experimenten med slagen på Pacer 375 är borta på nya Pacer 400. Kostar för mycket i IRC och ORCi enligt varvet.TECHNICAL INFORMATION
Length Overall 12.04m
Length WaterLine 11.03m
Beam 3.75m
Draft 2.5m
Displacement 6100kg
Engine Size (STD) 30hp
SAIL AREAS
Mainsail 63m
Code 1 Jib 38m2
Code 2 Jib 37m2
Spinnaker Masthead 130m2
P 16m
E 6m
I 15.25m
J 4.6m
torsdag 18 mars 2010
Alexander Simonis om segelval och påverkan på designen
Jag ställde några frågor till Alexandr Simonis ena halvan av konstruktörs teamet till våran Grynet. Kan ju vara kul så här i segelköpar tagen.
Sails
How do you consider different sail configurations when optimizing the design?
"This depends on what kind of yacht it is, Cruising/racing, round the cans or round the world.
Where the yacht sails, what time of the year and what general conditions it can experience all influence the sizing of the rig and sails. Quite often we look for weather data if it concerns a specific event or specific area where the boat is sailing or needs to perform at it best.. The extracted wind models are then set up in a VPP to run the yacht against. Then Different sail sets are considered, this then goes back the ratings if it involves a rating based design. If not it stays in the loop of optimizing hydrodynamics (hull/appendages) against aerodynamics (rig/sails)."
To build a fast 35 foot boat that fits both ORCi and IRC. What is your opinion about what we should look for? Rules of thumb?
"Weight is still King, I think if the boat is well build and as light as possible you have a basis
From which you can optimize towards either rule.(within reason that is). "
- Jib vs. Genoa?
"The general trend is to move away from large overlaps, under either rule."
- Should it be high Jib area/mainsail area factor?
"It is all about balancing, but you do have more control over a main than a jib in term of trimming it , that makes is more versatile and ultimately allow you to sail with a smaller sail wardrobe than back in the IOR day’s with the big over laps. (Light, ,medium, heavy no:1 and so one). Unfortunately the rating rules like IRC haven tended to put more and more weight on the main in terms of rating which may slow this down and push us towards going a bit bigger again on the headsails. I think we only will see subtle differences in time to come and maybe also venue/location driven."
- Gennacker vs symmetric spinnaker.
"The development in Asyms’ in progressing at a much more rapid rate than than the symmetric ones, if you look how much asym’s improved over the last 10 years, In combination with lighter faster boats it is the way forward."
- Weight – is there an ideal weight
"Many of the new boats feels like heavy boats. It’s rule driven, Up to now really without exception you see each and every rule as it is used over time, ending up with heavier and heavier boats to fit in well under the rating. It’s maybe not
that easy to address for the rule makers but it’s not nice. No matter what, heavier boats are more expensive and in general slower so who really want that."
I have a feeling that the bigger the jib is in relation to the main sail the easier is it to get a jib configured boat to move. Is it so or is it just a fix idea?
"I think it is just a feeling maybe based on what reaction an action gives, the headsails only being attached to the forestay, are really giving maybe better feedback to what is happening,
With the sheet loose the flap and do nothing, while sheeting in the flapping stops and drive
Is generated. The main on the other hand is much more restrained by the mast, boom, battens and headboard so it doesn’t move as much as the headsail does when moves the sheet. Also the main has a disturbed flow to start of with caused by the mast, the headsail, specially on a head foil has that far less. It is a function of balancing, and a total amount of sail area needed.
For a certain mastheigth/weight/cg you really like to get on as much (efficient) area as possible so you spread it out over the main and the jib."
Här är länkar till hela Alexander Simonis serien:
Kolla också:
http://sundetregatta.blogspot.com/2010/02/alexander-simonis-om-simonis-voogd.html
Alex Simonis om köldesign:
http://sundetregatta.blogspot.com/2010/02/alexander-simonis-ger-sin-syn-pa-pacer.html
Alex om Americas Cup, flerskrovsdesign och framtiden fö Cupen:
http://sundetregatta.blogspot.com/2010/02/alexander-simonis-om-americas-cup-33rd.html
Alex om designverktygen och ORCi och IRC:
http://sundetregatta.blogspot.com/2010/03/alexander-simonis-om-dagens.html
Sails
How do you consider different sail configurations when optimizing the design?
"This depends on what kind of yacht it is, Cruising/racing, round the cans or round the world.
Where the yacht sails, what time of the year and what general conditions it can experience all influence the sizing of the rig and sails. Quite often we look for weather data if it concerns a specific event or specific area where the boat is sailing or needs to perform at it best.. The extracted wind models are then set up in a VPP to run the yacht against. Then Different sail sets are considered, this then goes back the ratings if it involves a rating based design. If not it stays in the loop of optimizing hydrodynamics (hull/appendages) against aerodynamics (rig/sails)."
To build a fast 35 foot boat that fits both ORCi and IRC. What is your opinion about what we should look for? Rules of thumb?
"Weight is still King, I think if the boat is well build and as light as possible you have a basis
From which you can optimize towards either rule.(within reason that is). "
- Jib vs. Genoa?
"The general trend is to move away from large overlaps, under either rule."
- Should it be high Jib area/mainsail area factor?
"It is all about balancing, but you do have more control over a main than a jib in term of trimming it , that makes is more versatile and ultimately allow you to sail with a smaller sail wardrobe than back in the IOR day’s with the big over laps. (Light, ,medium, heavy no:1 and so one). Unfortunately the rating rules like IRC haven tended to put more and more weight on the main in terms of rating which may slow this down and push us towards going a bit bigger again on the headsails. I think we only will see subtle differences in time to come and maybe also venue/location driven."
- Gennacker vs symmetric spinnaker.
"The development in Asyms’ in progressing at a much more rapid rate than than the symmetric ones, if you look how much asym’s improved over the last 10 years, In combination with lighter faster boats it is the way forward."
- Weight – is there an ideal weight
"Many of the new boats feels like heavy boats. It’s rule driven, Up to now really without exception you see each and every rule as it is used over time, ending up with heavier and heavier boats to fit in well under the rating. It’s maybe not
that easy to address for the rule makers but it’s not nice. No matter what, heavier boats are more expensive and in general slower so who really want that."
I have a feeling that the bigger the jib is in relation to the main sail the easier is it to get a jib configured boat to move. Is it so or is it just a fix idea?
"I think it is just a feeling maybe based on what reaction an action gives, the headsails only being attached to the forestay, are really giving maybe better feedback to what is happening,
With the sheet loose the flap and do nothing, while sheeting in the flapping stops and drive
Is generated. The main on the other hand is much more restrained by the mast, boom, battens and headboard so it doesn’t move as much as the headsail does when moves the sheet. Also the main has a disturbed flow to start of with caused by the mast, the headsail, specially on a head foil has that far less. It is a function of balancing, and a total amount of sail area needed.
For a certain mastheigth/weight/cg you really like to get on as much (efficient) area as possible so you spread it out over the main and the jib."
Här är länkar till hela Alexander Simonis serien:
Kolla också:
http://sundetregatta.blogspot.com/2010/02/alexander-simonis-om-simonis-voogd.html
Alex Simonis om köldesign:
http://sundetregatta.blogspot.com/2010/02/alexander-simonis-ger-sin-syn-pa-pacer.html
Alex om Americas Cup, flerskrovsdesign och framtiden fö Cupen:
http://sundetregatta.blogspot.com/2010/02/alexander-simonis-om-americas-cup-33rd.html
Alex om designverktygen och ORCi och IRC:
http://sundetregatta.blogspot.com/2010/03/alexander-simonis-om-dagens.html
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